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Hi all,

This is great to see!
One small point I'd like to raise, does anyone here remember the Internatinal Shogi Club/Club 24 site ?
I played a few games there with non Japanese people, it was quite good.
I'm just wondering if it's worth a try ,to try putting some pressure the ruling body to bring it back?
(Perhaps takodori can correct me here ?) I think it was withdrawn by the Club 24 commitee.

Great idea, but I think White should have Oushou, not Gyokushou like PlayOK (even if you switch the board around, White still has Gyokushou.)

I very much appreciate your offer! I don't know anything about programming, so I can't offer suggestions, but I'm very happy you are helping to make the server and client for the new playing site.


If possible, I think it would be best if the higher-ranked player was given the King General (oushou).

I think Java would be the best. Just a quick thought. Also, how are we going to organize the accounts as for Wiki accounts or Forum accounts or what?

And the Resign button definitely should have a confirmation, just saying. Because it'd be gruelsome to accidentally click the Resign button in the middle of a game.

Hi ludwig.


I'm so glad to hear that you are working on the server side since I'm not very confident in socket connection stuffs.
But I hear an interesting information from a comment on Hidetchi san's twitter post that the CSA(computer shogi association) has its own shogi server program called shogi-server and it's distributed under GPL license.
here is the url of the shogi-server's web site (so sad its all written in Japanese). http://shogi-server.sourceforge.jp/
and svn repository. http://svn.sourceforge.jp/svnroot/shogi ... rver/trunk

I think using this server program would quicken our development.
I looked at the specification of the server. It's good enough for our program.
It even has chat and observer features implemented already!

how do you think about using shogi-server as our server?

sorry. forgot to put my github url.
its http://github.com/kota
But I haven't launched a repository for this project yet.
so you cannot see anything now.

I think that shogi-server program looks great! I'll have to set it up tonight and see what it can do. It's good because this should let us concentrate on the client interface first, which should be our priority anyway.

Thanks so much for your offer, kota!

OK. Now I believe everyone here is fine with kota being our main programmer.

As to the programing language for the client, I have no idea which is better (flex or java), but flex seems to be pretty good since kota himself prefers it, and also ludwig's impression of chesscub.com. But I also like to hear 1059860's opinion as to why he prefers java.


That's a good idea. (although we can think about implementing additional features like that later on)


Are you saying whether we should unify the account for Wiki, Form, and the new game client? That's interesting.(if that's technically possible) But I still think separating the accounts is also fine. I'd like to here other people's opinions on this.
As to the Resign button, I totally agree of course

I think it would involve merging the databases, in order to unify accounts. I don't know how this would be done, though. Maybe we can eventually find someone who knows how to do it. For now, I think having separate accounts is fine. As Hidetchi has said several times, limited functionality is better than no functionality.

As to which type of client we can use, BCM analyzed the pros and cons of both types on Shogi-L in that thread I posted earlier.

http://groups.google.com/group/shogi-l/ ... 22?lnk=gst (go to Bernhard's second post)

I'm still relatively new to programming, and really only know Java, along with tidbits of other languages. Right now I'm working on a different program I told Hiro I would try to work on (well, procrastinating is what I'm doing more of, ahaha).

Since I have several things I am doing at once, I tend to work a bit slowly, or suddenly stop working for several days.

But if there is anyway that I can help, I would be glad to, though I can't promise I would be able to. It would also be a good learning experience for me, haha.

I did once tell Hiro I could try setting it up, but I'm not really competent enough to do something that advanced, so it's much better to have more experienced programmers working on it.